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Post by Mark Enderlein on Mar 16, 2006 20:03:49 GMT -5
Take a look at this site. It is a kart we have available on a special order basis as we don't stock any non-Birel chassis at this time. www.kartwarehouseusa.com/kart_chassis.htmAnyone interested, give me a call. Mark
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Post by fasching on Mar 16, 2006 22:03:17 GMT -5
To all of you wondering about the extreme chassis. We purchased 2 of them about a month ago. We were quite pleased when we opened the box at the quality and the parts that it comes with. We are setting them up with World Formula engines and are very excited to see how they work. For the amount of money that they are we think it was more than worth it.
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Post by nighthawk on Mar 17, 2006 6:57:27 GMT -5
;D Hi All, Hey Fashing, I would be interested to know what your total cost is going to be for setting up the World Formula on an Extreme chassis. If you don't mind sharing that info; I'm sure there are others that would be interested as well. Seems like a good price for a "New" kart.
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Post by craigmandery on Mar 17, 2006 19:42:47 GMT -5
I wanted to jump in and give my thoughts here as it seems that the perception is that we are trying to move away from 4cycle at the track. Now that I decided to get behind the wheel again last year and having my roots in karting running the BS I opted to run the World Formula. This is really the best value at our track right now and hopefully WKA will be getting us a rules package for both junior one and junior two. I put this motor on a used chassis right out of the box and even with 40 plus extra pounds won a few times and was competitive. I have less into this motor than my sons old falthead from a few years ago and never touched it all season. The track did not abandon the Briggs we are just going through a changeover from the flatheads and they in themselves began to price themselves out of reach of most racers. Competitive motor pakcages were getting close to $2,000.00 and clutches were blueprinted as well. I had many parents complain of the maintence and rebuild interval of these engines. We had only two or three sportsman last year so the entry numbers speak for themselves. The industry does need a non front brake entry level junior class and I think the World Formula can fill that bill. It should not be on a spec chassis rather somehting like the Wildkart that is competively priced and that lets the marketplace dictate the best value. As far as the TAGUSA cadet kart it is percieved to be more expensive due to the fact that thier is very little used equipment available, but that will change. These karts are tighlty regulated and I would expect to go at least a whole season before replacing a $50.00 piston that could easily be done by the racer. We have a new cadet kart package right now for $2,700.00. That is well under a new Briggs Blueprinted Flathead package from a few years ago. We will always support the Briggs classes however the flatheads day is coming to an end. We intend to make karting less expensive on the entry level side and continue to offer a natural progession of speed and expense at the will of the racer.
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Post by nighthawk on Mar 18, 2006 7:29:49 GMT -5
;D Hi All, Thanks for your input Craig. It's nice to know that the "entry level" classes are not being abandoned and that there is still a place at SMP for the kids and beginners of all ages to get a start in a great sport. I too am a beginner but thanks to this forum and others like it, I am decreasing the slope of a very steep learning curve! BTW Have you looked at the my thread on the Stock Moto class? Just a plug for an idea that is going well in other areas of the country.
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grumpy
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Post by grumpy on Mar 20, 2006 13:53:49 GMT -5
the fact that the owners have decided to pay attention to the entry level classes represents a complete [but welcome] about face. i just hope it's not to little and too late.as far as the statement about only three entries in sportsman,the real focus should be why are there only three entries in this class?a question never asked?yes the flatheads are going away,i for one won't miss them,however the cost isn't the sole reason.we ran karts at a competitive level on a very tight buget for years.2000.oo for an engine?thats 1 karts buget for the YEAR.in racing as in other things,throwing more money at something does not insure a good result.as for kart counts one need not look any further than a weekend at eau claire to find large 4cycle fields and familiar faces!i sincerely hope that the entry level classes[with support from the track] will return in large numbers and the facility will realize it's potential. steve vermeer
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Post by genegr on Apr 4, 2006 9:18:02 GMT -5
I know why we don’t race at Stockholm. I was told by Jim that Kenny does not want to black flag any Jr. racers. The Briggs classes were great to watch but the weekly hail mary passes by one driver got very expensive for me. I have two Briggs blocks with the exhaust pipes broke off, broken carbs and several bent rims all caused by the same driver. The last engine had two practices and one heat race on it before another stupid pass at corner 14 took it off. I paid $1,300.00 for that motor. I know racing is expensive, and I love watching my kids learn and grow with racing. But I dreaded the day that I was going to have to call home from the hospital. That exhaust pipe is very close to the kid’s heads. With two kids racing I prefer the way other tracks control the future of the sport.
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